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Postby Arcalane » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:58 am

Actual rules pending me beating the stuffing out of Doom for getting the old forums nuked and not having a backup of the rules saved. :|
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Postby Purplecat » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:43 am

Still waiting for the rules to get up again.

Especially about voice spamming. It's getting really annoying.
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Postby Taross » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:03 pm

Let's start with one rule that I have been made aware of that's not being adhered to.

No explicit porn.

I have been getting complaints from actual FOR members that they don't want to play on either server because of the massive amount of furry sex that was plastered on the walls.
Now, I'm not going to be all policing the server to see who is secretly using porn.
I am also not putting the matter up for debate... But if I get complaints of porn/over the top sprays the following will happen:
First offense: kick.
Second offense: 24hr ban.
And any more offenses will only make things worse...

Keep things, if you must do something sexual, tasteful. And I mean General-world-at-large Tasteful. Not "But my friend likes it" tasteful.
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Postby Purplecat » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:13 pm

Which server? Both of them?

Not to nitpick, but since it's creation the US server pretty much had "anything goes" spray-wise since it's creation. And it still says that it's a mature server where porn sprays are permitted in the MOTD... did you talk with the US server admin about this?

It would make me sad seeing a such rule enforced really. Especially since the way it's enforced sounds kinda vague. :/
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Postby Arcalane » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:17 pm

Taross wrote:Let's start with one rule that I have been made aware of that's not being adhered to.


Say what? This was never a rule that was in place in the first place!
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Postby Witchiebunny » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:19 pm

So now the question becomes what constitutes "general tasteful"?

Whose standards are we using? Where is the line drawn? Is one fetish acceptable but another isn't? No fetishes acceptable at all?

Why can't someone just turn sprays off? I'm sorry, Pony, but I have issues with limiting others free speech because one person doesn't like what they see. It's like hearing something you don't like on the radio...instead of petitioning and lobbying to make something unavailable to EVERYONE because YOU don't like it, your other option is just to turn the radio off.

Okay, I can get that some FOR members don't like porn sprays, but for goodness sake, it's not hard to just turn sprays off, and takes all of two seconds. Why should everyone suffer because someone wants to impose their sensibilities on the entire community?

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Taross wrote:Let's start with one rule that I have been made aware of that's not being adhered to.


Say what? This was never a rule that was in place in the first place!


Agreed. The US server even SAYS it's a mature server and porn IS allowed. I can go and take a screenshot of it if you need me to.

I'd also like to point out that in reading through FOR's back announcements there was a point where the admins of FOR were threatening to remove the TF2 servers because no one played on them. In other words, the servers were pretty much empty until *we* came along and began playing on them, our little band of refugees from The-Servers-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named. We are the ones who made FOR a popular place to be. Why then should we be told that we cannot be ourselves on the servers we've made our home when the minority offended party has the option of turning sprays off? Seriously, Pony, this isn't fair to the majority of those on the server.

It's akin to one person getting offended by someone playing David Bowie on the radio, and instead of turning to a new station or turning the radio off when he comes on, forcing the station to BAN the playing of his music, preventing those that do enjoy his music from listening to him. In short, instead of this person exercising their CHOICE to turn off sprays, what you're proposing is removing the choice for EVERYONE. That's not right.
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Postby Doom » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:21 pm

Taross wrote:Let's start with one rule that I have been made aware of that's not being adhered to.

No explicit porn.

I have been getting complaints from actual FOR members that they don't want to play on either server because of the massive amount of furry sex that was plastered on the walls.
Now, I'm not going to be all policing the server to see who is secretly using porn.


I know this isn't up for debate, but because a few people (who don't have to be named) don't like the content of our sprays; we have to stop all together? There is a no-spray option in the options menu. I mean, I could be on your side if people kept brining shock-images in hopes of a reaction; but this is almost like how we view mic-spam/loud talkers. There's a fucking mute button for a reason. We don't kick/server-side mute unless it becomes a real problem. I was hoping [FOR] could stay free of all but the utmost basic rules (Follow the community, don't cheat/grief, .etc); but come on people. It's a M-rated game and a way-beyond M rated community. I have non-fur friends who are as young as 15 play on [FOR] with sprays, and they don't complain. They just suck it up and move along... [/rant]
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Postby Mirri » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:20 pm

There's been plenty of eye-bleach-inducing sprays on the servers over the time I've been playing on them. My sprays are some of them :p But, I agree, that restricting a server to "no porn" on a server inhabited mostly by furries is just asking for them to migrate somewhere else, you'd be killing the servers altogether. It would not be a very smart move. HOWEVER, the FEW (re: minority) of people that are put off by these sprays are more than welcome to take their lazy, upitty asses over to un-check the little "Enable player sprays" checkbox in the options menu and continue about playing. They don't want to see sprays, they don't see sprays. Problem solved. EV'RYBUDDEH HAPPEH!

What kind of newfag can't handle a little furry porn anyway? GTFO my internets! :O
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Postby Dark Lucario » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:55 pm

Agreed. While I can understand some people not liking the sprays there, they were warned that this is a mature server. What might be next? Should we start kicking and banning people because they use obscene language? Or maybe if they use HLSS? Or maybe by just trying to have fun?
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Postby Witchiebunny » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:57 pm

Dark Lucario wrote:Agreed. While I can understand some people not liking the sprays there, they were warned that this is a mature server. What might be next? Should we start kicking and banning people because they use obscene language? Or maybe if they use HLSS? Or maybe by just trying to have fun?


Gee, sounds like another server we know...

That aside, I know I'm using a decidedly American argument for an international community, but come on, this is basic.

I bet if I threw up a vote, a lot of the community wouldn't be for banning porn. So why is it so hard for parties offended to just hit "no sprays" instead of dampening the fun for everyone?
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