Pyro flamethrower crits

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Postby Echoen » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:20 am

So, for a long time, I would sometimes get a flamethrower crit animation but it was not a crit, it just made me think it was.

But I've just realized that I have not gotten a single flamethrower crit for a long, long time, though I get the animation and sounds a lot. I've stopped critting with the flamethrower, every time, it is a fake.

What the fuck?
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Postby NOLSireno » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:10 am

Do you tend to use the standard flamethrower or the backburner? From my experience, the backburner never crits except in the back. Its description doesn't say "Only crits in the back", but it sure feels like it.

I've seen the regular flamethrower crit for others, but it tends to be rare. Having it crit for me is even rarer. I've had way more shotgun than flamethrower crits, but then I tend to only use the flamethrower briefly then either airblast/shotgun (for the non-slow classes or when staying close is a bad idea) or axtinguisher (which is so fun when it works :D ).

It also might just be that the pyro tends to not do enough damage in a short enough time to get the crit-chance high enough and have the flamethrower crit; or it tends to be a shotgun/axe crit than a flamethrower one. That's just a wild guess, though.
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Postby pablofiasco » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:49 pm

hmmm...
well.....i almost always play pyro if i can help it, and normally, depending on how im doing in a game, i'll get crit fire between 1 to 3 times a match at most (again, depending on how im doing at the time)
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Postby Purplecat » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:33 pm

"Fake" crits happens with the Heavy as well. It doesn't happen with classes using projectile weapons at least (Demoman and Soldier).

Been around for awhile really. >_>
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Postby Wulfie » Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:15 pm

Ailure wrote:"Fake" crits happens with the Heavy as well. It doesn't happen with classes using projectile weapons at least (Demoman and Soldier).

Been around for awhile really. >_>
Actually, for Soldier, I've heard my rockets 'crit sound' every so often, but without the glow and the actual critical hit. So.. Soldiers get it too, to an extent.
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Postby Dravu » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:48 am

Wulfie wrote:
Ailure wrote:"Fake" crits happens with the Heavy as well. It doesn't happen with classes using projectile weapons at least (Demoman and Soldier).

Been around for awhile really. >_>
Actually, for Soldier, I've heard my rockets 'crit sound' every so often, but without the glow and the actual critical hit. So.. Soldiers get it too, to an extent.

Odd. I've had that happen before as well. I always just figured I miss-fired and the rocket blew up before I saw it. I have a habit of doing that when an enemy gets close. I like my space. :P
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Postby Fernin » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:05 am

I've only ever gotten crits once or twice with the regular flame thrower. It's a very powerful weapon as is so I think it has a low crit occurrence for balance. Now the engie wrench on the other hand...Crits like 40% of the time... Much to the distress of my fellow spys...
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Postby Jinx » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:43 pm

Considering melee weapons have a higher base crit chance and that sentry kills increase crit chance, that wrench is dangerous! And Echoen are you talking about the backburner or the flamethrower? I've never really had a problem with the backburner, but I can't remember the last time I had a good crit with the flamethrower... I usually get them with the flare gun/shotgun. Something that's very weird though is I once killed a demoman with crits... from a blutsauger. I saw the critical hit text, we both heard the critical hit noises, and he died much much quicker than normal. Was a big WTF moment for both of us.
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Postby Echoen » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:35 pm

I got two crits the other night. Flamethrower, NOT backburner. Airblast is too fucking useful to dare ditch for anything else.
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Postby Fernin » Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:14 pm

Echoen wrote:Airblast is too fucking useful to dare ditch for anything else.


I would disagree. There ae som situation where I prefer the crit ability of the backburner (generally when playing offense on PL maps); though occasionally when playing a defensive game I find the airblast to be more useful. It's just a matter of situation really.
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