The All-New TF2 Beta Changes

[Salen Stormwing]

[Irukandji]

Reserve Shooter changes? Pyro now? Hmm, sounds dame good actually. Still using my strange BackBurner though - the added switch speed for the shotty make the Axtinguisher work with BackBurner IMO.

Widow Maker now 30 Metal a shot. Bout time, now I can use the thing finally - this better move out of beta.

Tomislav now a -50 hp nerf is just plain dumb. I still don't get why they just gave it a damage nerf instead.

The rest don't really affect me, so yea :V

[Jinx]

[Mr. Munchlax]

To someone who started using the BB recently after exclusively using the degreaser for a long time, yeah that damage bonus is noticeable. It just seems like valve's continued trend of not wanting people to actually kill with fire based weapons ever (except the flaregun I guess) But I guess it's more of a way to cut down on people using the BB solely for the damage bonus to W+M1. If you're like me and you actually use the BB like you're supposed to (as in getting behind people for the crits) it probably won't be that big of an issue. But oh well, at least we get the reserve shooter now.

[MaskedJackal]

[Irukandji]

[Oktoberwolf]

You missed quite some stuff from your changelog.
Accurate changelogs: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Septe ... %28Beta%29 + http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Septe ... %28Beta%29

The changes: Nothing more than wait and see to see how they'll work out.

Also ITT: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/09/28/team- ... 0&ns_fee=0

[Salen Stormwing]

[Mr. Munchlax]

So not all was as it seemed.

While the BB is getting it's damage bonus taken away. The stock flamethrower got a 10% damage buff today, and because of this the BB's damage output is back to where it was before. The degreaser has a 10% damage penalty now but again, because of the FT's damage buff the degreaser damage output isn't changing at all.

All I can say is, it's about fucking time Valve reversed the 2010 pyro nerfs.

[Salen Stormwing]