Taking it to the Next Level

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Postby Echoen » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:47 am

After some hard thought, looking through demos, and considering my previous play experience, I think I would like to try out for Tournament play.

Of course, I would take on the role of Medic, but I am interested in setting up a 6-man team with the basic format (Demo, Medic, Pocket soldier, Roaming soldier, two Scouts) and practicing regularly. Who knows - Maybe we all blow ass and can't even begin to fight? Maybe we're better than we think we are? Only fighting other teams can help us realize this.

I'm interested in people's thoughts about this, having a TFP TF2 Tourny gang. The heavy gunners that can really bring skill to the table. I would hope I'm good enough for the Medic role but that remains to be seen. Consistent top of the scoreboards in a place like this might not even come close to the bottom tier of real TF2 Tournament play. Or TFP might actually hone some level of skill.

Comment here with your thoughts, opinions. And please note - This is not something to do just because someone you like is doing it. This IS a "Srs bsns" thread. Yes, it's a game - but this is the Next Level.
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Postby SilverWolf » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:39 pm

I could join under Soldier or Scout (even though I'm normally a good Pyro or Heavy), though the problem here is distance, meaning that I can't really join since I'm in Europe.

"Taking it to the next level" would probably be a good thing in one way or another, IIRC there are still threads scattered around these forums about setting up tutoring sessions.
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Postby MaskedJackal » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:12 pm

I actually think that some us are better than we think we are. TFP is more challenging than your average pub (I've joined a friends game on a random pub once and I had something like a 7:1 k:d ratio. I have never come close to that on TFP). Also, I've played with competitive players (if the TF2F servers count) before and I was able to hold my own, and I know for a fact that I'm nowhere near the best player in TFP.

I think having a tournament team would be fun. Hey, if we end up blowing ass, then who cares? What have we got to lose? =p
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Postby unseen » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:59 pm

What?? No spies?
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Postby Sekh765 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:26 pm

Spies are never used in tournament level play because its 6v6 and all teams use ventrilo, so they know where their entire team is at all times. Spies get destroyed at tourney level :\.

Unless your playing umm.. Wildfire? Wildcard? rules, which is 9 players each team, 1 of each class.
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Postby Mr. Munchlax » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:42 pm

I thought it was called Highlander. Anyways, that's the only kind of tourney team I'd be part of since I play pyro. Besides it makes more sense to have it that way. TF2 where certain classes are discouraged from being played because they're "useless in tournament play" isn't TF2 imo.
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Postby SilverWolf » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:05 pm

2 Soldiers 2 Scouts a demo and a medic is just the normal layout, doesn't mean it has to be this way, hell, people say the european layout consists of a Heavy instead of the Pocket Soldier, which is normally only used when defending, normally the class that gets replaced is the Pocket Soldier or one of the Scouts, though It's rare seeing only one Scout.

I did have a clan before, they went up two divisions in two seasons in a row, left before the final of the season where they reached division 3 (iirc), used to be a Demo until I started shifting, maybe who knows, maybe I could give a few tips and pointers from the old days.

Also related to the spy, it is hard to be a spy on 6v6 tourney level, but there are quite a good few spies around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG8Ub19JCe0#t=4m40s
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Postby Tails » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:20 pm

Id be up for this, sounds fun 8-) though no chance I would be anything other than medic lol
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Postby Draco18s » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:23 pm

SilverWolf wrote:Also related to the spy, it is hard to be a spy on 6v6 tourney level, but there are quite a good few spies around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG8Ub19JCe0#t=4m40s


I've seen a few of those videos and I always think "why do the announcers think that the players can pull off these stunts all the time?" Most of them are pretty heavily luck based.

For that video in particular, the 5th kill on the demo happened because the demo was stupid enough to be wielding his melee weapon at the time.
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Postby SilverWolf » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:53 pm

Draco18s wrote:
SilverWolf wrote:Also related to the spy, it is hard to be a spy on 6v6 tourney level, but there are quite a good few spies around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG8Ub19JCe0#t=4m40s


I've seen a few of those videos and I always think "why do the announcers think that the players can pull off these stunts all the time?" Most of them are pretty heavily luck based.

For that video in particular, the 5th kill on the demo happened because the demo was stupid enough to be wielding his melee weapon at the time.


there are enough reasons to why the demo could've decided to wield the bottle at that time, mainly not having ammo loaded for example, the strikes of luck were probably the soldier killing himself and the second soldier running low on ammo (since he switched to the shotgun).

Normally spies are only used to take out key targets, like it's supposed to, it's normally the only case where it's even used in competitions.

The second thing is, normally these top 10 videos are about Div.1 frags or plays, so most assume that a player is experienced enough to "pull off these stunts"
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