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Postby Ayeaka » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:47 pm

Sekh765 wrote:
Dr. Furry wrote:the talking down the other team, thats trash talk. mentality is half the battle


And something that we look down on consistently.



Indeed. I might jokingly insult back and forth with a friend, but that's because we both know the other's joking--and it's obvious we aren't serious.

I won't deny being extremely bothered by how much the community has changed. The thing is, most of that change is just newcomers that don't know what's what yet, and I'll admit that.

A few people go too far, get their asses beat for continual harassment, and things will slowly improve.


Time being, though, no. Harassment is not encouraged here under any circumstances. Everyone might slip and say something, sure. More than one person has heard me go "grahhh where did that little fucker go!?" when someone manages to escape me.
But I'm not mad at the player, nor am I going to attack them beyond that. :/
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Postby Dr. Furry » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:37 am

the extent of my insults would be calling somone im dominating a fail [insert thier calss here], but most of the times it because they earned it. when i'm mad at my teamates, i actually hold back, and give tips on how to improve thier game although sometims the LITTLE PIECES OF TURD JUST AJLEK;ANEKLF.....like one time, one of our snipers against two of thiers, he has hunstman, they have rifles, they have higher ground, and he insists on sniping then with teh huntsman, even though he's gettign buttraped with no lube. i make the suggestino about 3 or 4 times, and even though he's getting his ass handed to him, he refuses to change, now that is a fail sniper
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Postby unseen » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:06 am

Ayeaka wrote:AZN, looking at you, I believe. Wasn't it you that I goofed with as spy? I know a spy on the enemy team and I were going LOLOL U HAX LAWLAWL back and forth at each other every time one of us got a good kill streak. xD ) and the entire team sees fit to chime in after one person calls me a worthless whiner over me JOKING, well, then. And it's not even me. I see the same fucking mentality constantly on these servers. One person says something, ONE person makes fun of them, and suddenly the entire god-damned server is doing everything in their power to rip that poor person a new one.


Yup, I definately remember that one XD.
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Postby CrashFu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:47 am

What makes me rage? Hmmm...

It's quite simple, really. Disrespect. These are GAMES. This isn't a war, there's nothing at stake, and so the people you're playing with AND against are not your enemies. They're people willing to play a game with you. To share their time with you and offer you a challenge. That's something you should be grateful for; they deserve your respect.

And disrespect isn't limited to trash talk. You cheat or exploit in any way, be it through outside modification or taking advantage of a bug in the game? You're disrespecting each and every person you're playing with, because you're telling them they aren't worth facing on even grounds. You're telling them that you DESERVE to have an advantage over them all! Well [expletive] YOU too, buddy! And not only the people you're playing WITH, you're also disrespecting the game's developers by saying "You intended for your game to be played this way, but I don't like that, so I'm going to do this instead!" How arrogant and rude of you! As someone deeply passionate about game design, I feel insulted when I see someone disrespecting a game's creators like that. Good game or bad game, the devs don't deserve that. And so, I am DOUBLY insulted by these actions!

When, exactly, did the online world as a whole get it into their heads that the nature of a game was a reason that they SHOULD treat each other so horribly? Seriously, when did that [expletive] start? Let me tell all the trolls out there how the real world works:

I go to the gym and BOX a few times per week. When we get into the ring, we begin every sparring match with a sincere touch of gloves and end it with the gloved equivalent of a high-five. We compliment each other. If we agreed to spar to the body and a fist slips into a jaw, we apologize. Someone gets banged up? We ask if they're okay. We give each other advice on improving our skills. And this particular gym isn't just home to amateurs; I know of several professional [expletive]ing athletes, CHAMPIONS who I personally have stepped into the ring with, and even though they're better than me, they're cool about it. You know what they do when they step into the ring and know the guy they're with can't come close to matching their skills? They tone it down to the opponent's level so that the fight won't be one-sided and boring.

And I expect every [expletive]ing last one of you to embrace that attitude when you're online, be it playing games, chatting in a forum, or leaving comments on an art site. GOT IT!? :evil:
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Postby Sultry Skunk » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:57 am

That God Damn Sword.


THAT GOD DAMN, 20 FOOT LONG, OUTTA NO WHERE, I USED TO SEE 6 A MAP, SWORD!


Oh, and trying to play the much needed Engie and seeing Niko, Maud, or some other player I know plays a mean demo. ;_;

Also, Niko, I saw you on E621. Twice!
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Postby NikkyVix » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:14 am

Sultry Skunk wrote:Also, Niko, I saw you on E621. Twice!


Whatever it was it looks like I did, I'm innocent of it! Really! c.c
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Postby Helios » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:43 am

NikkyVix wrote:
Sultry Skunk wrote:Also, Niko, I saw you on E621. Twice!


Whatever it was it looks like I did, I'm innocent of it! Really! c.c


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Postby Dr. Furry » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:49 pm

CrashFu wrote:It's quite simple, really. Disrespect. These are GAMES. This isn't a war, there's nothing at stake, and so the people you're playing with AND against are not your enemies. They're people willing to play a game with you. To share their time with you and offer you a challenge. That's something you should be grateful for; they deserve your respect.

When, exactly, did the online world as a whole get it into their heads that the nature of a game was a reason that they SHOULD treat each other so horribly? Seriously, when did that [expletive] start? Let me tell all the trolls out there how the real world works:


so you're telling me that since i'm playing a war game, i should treat it like barbie club house?

And I expect every [expletive]ing last one of you to embrace that attitude when you're online, be it playing games, chatting in a forum, or leaving comments on an art site. GOT IT!? :evil:

good luck trying to impose your views on someone else, it's like trying to force your religious doctrines on another person.
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Postby NikkyVix » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:22 pm

Dr. Furry wrote:
CrashFu wrote:It's quite simple, really. Disrespect. These are GAMES. This isn't a war, there's nothing at stake, and so the people you're playing with AND against are not your enemies. They're people willing to play a game with you. To share their time with you and offer you a challenge. That's something you should be grateful for; they deserve your respect.

When, exactly, did the online world as a whole get it into their heads that the nature of a game was a reason that they SHOULD treat each other so horribly? Seriously, when did that [expletive] start? Let me tell all the trolls out there how the real world works:


so you're telling me that since i'm playing a war game, i should treat it like barbie club house?


You are making a common debative dodge: Going to an opposite extreme in an effort to devalue someone else's point.
By no means is CrashFu saying that a game about competition means we should all be holding hands and singing about sunshine. He is asking you to validate the reasons for your disrespect towards other people who, beyond the game, are likely just like you, looking to have fun with a game the same way you are, and already frustrated when they aren't doing well. He is asking you why you feel it is necessary to belittle people that are no more or no less important to the contribution of the gaming atmosphere than you yourself.

I believe this is a viable question because it echoes a problem that's endemic to a LOT of players online: Breaking down the other person in lieu of building oneself up.

Dr. Furry wrote:
CrashFu wrote:And I expect every [expletive]ing last one of you to embrace that attitude when you're online, be it playing games, chatting in a forum, or leaving comments on an art site. GOT IT!? :evil:

good luck trying to impose your views on someone else, it's like trying to force your religious doctrines on another person.


Maybe it's just me, but I think the statement he made in the end, with its bolding, over the top phrasing and its ending emoticon, was not meant to be taken seriously and meant for subtle humor. I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.
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Postby Purplecat » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:10 pm

Trash Talking is only really fun when both parties are having fun from it, rather than it being about pissing off the other opponent. :/ Plus the massive amount of trash-talking is probably one of the biggest reasons I personally hate Counter-strike (plus the idiocy).

It happens I utter a expletive or two when something dosen't go my way in the game (usually when we have too many of a certain class admittedly, thou I try to be polite about it nowadays :).). But if you're so full of anger that you're nearly punching the monitor or doing nothing other than insulting people, it's probably time for a break.
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