a simple request.

[RumRunner]

due to twisting of this thread's original intent due to improper phrasing i request that it be locked or deleted.

[Pitchblack]

Anyway, Rum, your complaint is not always true. Actually, a lot of the time if one team works together the teams become more balanced.

[Makaze]

[Stormcaller3801]

My opinion in those situations is always that it'll get sorted next map. Of course, I also have no idea who's better than anyone else, and there's a thousand odd members here. Of which I'd guess roughly 99.9% are better than me. Which makes it hard to figure out if one person is better than another. To say nothing of trying to evaluate teams as a group, particularly when people are goofing as opposed to playing seriously.

...Which, come to think of it, also doesn't matter when it comes to whether someone's better than me. You people seem quite capable of kicking my regardless of if you're trying or not.

[Makaze]

[Plusle]

I encountered these fellows just now.

There were four of them, I think...

Why not just go 2v2? That would be much more balanced than just stomping everyone.

[RumRunner]

[Tyakoto]

[iller]

They seem to be ignoring this thread ...Don't be surprised when nothing changes. For every incident of spawn camping, there's 3 incidents of stacking. One is preventable or atleast provable. While the other one is tolerated and even condoned b/c it also occurs naturally due to Autobalance being poorely designed. Scrambling failing to actually scramble (or much more often, being short by just 1 or 2 votes) doesn't help either but that seems to be a dead-end issue too. In the end, Lethargy or convenience wins out and you'll just regret ever even suggesting this, b/c not enough people can/will relate to it...

[Pathia]

Several points here as I was in game during some of this incident

1.) I was on your team, when this happened.
2.) We steamrolled the rest of the Tawners in the two maps I was in and even after I left, apparently this continued for a map or two.
3.) It was a 6v6 setup, the server wasn't full. When you don't have enough to fill out all positions on defense, you can blast through and steamroll VERY easy.
4.) STT only requires 40% to win. This means if the entire side that was being steamrolled bothered to vote, it wins by default.
5.) I was on your team, when this happened.

We will split ourselves up if it becomes very obvious that the teams are unbalanced. However, we're not going to do it when the other team is playing with 4snipers, or 4engineers. It ain't going to happen. Even if someone doesn't have a hyper good skillset, if you just work together you can obliterate any and all of us. If anything, the one tactical advantage we have is that we, for obvious reasons, work well together. That's something anyone can do, with just a little planning.